I created nearly 6 million yuan in profit for the company in a year and a half. How much basic salary can I get in a new job with such a record? The current company's behavior makes me feel cold...

What made me even more heartbroken was that my boss got in trouble with me for being half an hour late for work during the peak season. Everyone was late (the boss said at the beginning of the interview that the working hours were flexible and that everyone would make up for the time they were late after work), but he dissed me in a meeting that day, and from that day on, he required everyone in the company to clock in and out on time.

I stay up until 2am after work, and I'm a little bald. I'm very, very, very disappointed about being accused of being late. And this company's weekdays are too tiring. I slack off on Saturdays. I want to change to a two-day weekend. I don't want to be a manager, I just want to be an operator...

Add sugar to soy milk

If we hadn't already formed a cross-border team, I think we would be willing to spend hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars a year to hire the answerer. We are a foreign trade factory in central China, and I feel that many factories are in need of talents who can directly do cross-border work.

If there is a medium-sized foreign trade factory suitable for cross-border business in your hometown or nearby areas, and the boss is relatively open-minded, it is actually a good choice. I am even willing to offer a relatively high base salary plus, for example, 20% of the net profit (including the factory's production profit) to recruit the right person, and then develop it completely according to the needs of the operation end.

In fact, I feel that a base salary of 10,000 or 20,000 is really a drop in the bucket for factories that really need this kind of talent, and the net profit sharing model is relatively more reassuring. After all, it is difficult to control the previous performance and variables are completely attributed to individuals.

Amazon Warriors • Guangzhou

@豆浆要加糖: A lot. If our company could use 20% of the net profit to support my team, it wouldn't be as dead as it is now. Haha

Add sugar to soy milk • Shanghai

@Amazon勇士: Last year we found someone who said he understood operations, and he designed and produced a few million units of goods according to the styles and requirements they selected. But he ended up using an agent to operate the goods, and the goods they sold on Amazon were basically all lost after deducting their commission.

This year we contacted a more reliable team and started again. We gave them nearly 50% of the technical shares. They paid a small amount of registration capital, and we basically paid all the operating costs and several million in goods. I hope it will be successful. Our foreign trade factory earns 400 to 500 million yuan a year in production value, but it is not as much as the poster alone earns for the company. Therefore, many medium-sized factories are very eager for talents in this area.

I feel that the embarrassing thing is that many foreign trade factories don’t understand, so they can’t find reliable people, and they don’t have the right channels. Then the operations that are doing well may not have the right channels to find reliable factories. We also suffered losses, so we started to understand it ourselves. I also came to Zhiwushuo to slowly understand this thing

lj b555 • Foshan

@豆浆要加糖: How should I put it? Top operators have all started their own businesses (all operators have the desire to work alone, but top operators start their own businesses). Excellent operators have no motivation to go to the central region if they are paid well. As for the question of "there are often good horses but no good horse trainer", it is very complicated. I can only say that there are often good horses, but it does not mean that they are everywhere - I have been in the industry for ten years and have seen too many past brilliant performances. If they change the "environment", they will be mediocre.

Sarah rah22 • Taiyuan

@豆浆要加糖: Your factory is awesome, please cooperate with me. I am a solo entrepreneur. I started working on Amazon in 2016 and have been working on my own since 2018. Now I have a stable profit of about 3 million yuan per year. I think if the product is good, I still have the confidence to promote it.

I am a cross-border dog • United States

@豆浆要加糖: If you have good factory resources, please share them on the forum. This forum is full of operators whose acquisitions do not match their capabilities. I made 2 million for my boss on the Japanese site last year. I personally think that such a small site is enough. I really want to try those factories that have good products but don’t understand the C-end

Add sugar to soy milk • Shanghai

@我是跨跨狗: Our products should be pretty good, but our production capacity has been fully utilized this year, and we don’t really want to accept orders from cross-border e-commerce companies. The prices are too low, and there is basically no profit. We are being squeezed very hard by e-commerce companies. . .

Amazon Warriors • Guangzhou

@豆浆要加糖: Yes. If I quit my job someday, I will either start my own business or find a company that integrates industry and trade. Suppliers are very important. As for operations, once you are familiar with them, many of them are similar. Most of them require specific solutions when they occur. The overall situation is not that good. I do not recommend agency operations at all, and there is no experience.

Momo01 - Work hard and achieve financial freedom soon

Agree from: 123卷儿123, FeiFeizz, cyx2021, Alley321, Lingxi's Little Donkey More »

Your situation is similar to mine. My company's monthly sales were 50,000-60,000 euros at the beginning. After two years, the monthly sales were about 400,000. I didn't ask for a salary increase, but they kept deducting commissions. Another reason was to catch latecomers. Later, they directly posted lateness notices in the work group. Last year, he ran away and started his own business.

I can't answer your question about how much money you can earn, because I don't know how to pay capable people when I recruit them. However, I think you have to see whether the sales volume is due to your strong operational strength or because the product is inherently competitive, which leads to such a rapid increase in sales volume.

To be honest, I used to say that if the product is good, and then add variants, it will grow fast. Because I am a developer and operator, I have developed many products myself. With the same set of strategies, some products just can't take off, so the product quality is very important. Finally, I hope the host can find a good buyer.

Shadow of the Wind • Xiamen

How much can you earn working alone in a month?

Mo mo01 • Foshan

@随风的影: It's pretty much the same as before, a few W, because of buying and shipping, it's just an estimate.

Anonymous user

Agree from: German warehouse worker, koula2022, the other party is typing

When you become the top 1 in the company, you will be fired soon!

On the one hand, your boss will not let you get the commission for too long. He can save a lot of money by finding another experienced operator to maintain your existing listings. Moreover, he will most likely not give you a raise because he or she must think that the commission you are getting now is enough.

On the other hand, if you are the top performer in the company, your colleagues will be jealous of you and keep eyeing on the fat meat in your hands. They will try to take your money away by saying one thing in public and another in private. Don’t ask me how I know… I am also the top seller in the previous company. Alas! 400,000 yuan a year is pretty good. Think about how to keep it in advance. Good luck to you!

me loveyou2018 • Shenzhen

Be content. With a gross profit of 4 million yuan for one account and a 10% commission, the boss may have earned 2 million yuan. The unknown risks are several times greater than yours.

Dancing fireworks

Agree with: LYE23029, German warehouse worker, lights in the mountain fog

According to your description
1. Your boss lacks vision and strategic capabilities;
2. You have the ability, and hope that you can maintain your ability to succeed even if you change companies and products. If so, then you need a boss with good character;

Let me say something that may be different from your idea. If you want to develop steadily, after you have the technology, you still have to learn to do some management:

1. If one person does it, it may be a skill; if a team does it, it is a replicable capability, which better reflects skills, expertise and strategic vision.

2. As your position changes and you look at things from different angles, you will get different answers and gain more.
   
   

It's not that you can't keep doing operations, but in the domestic environment, moving into a management position is the general trend, which is the main road, while continuing to operate is a narrow path. The first difficulty is that the mentality of most bosses in the current environment does not allow you to keep doing this. You can think about whether this is the case.

Anonymous user

Agree with: Niubility218, German warehouse working dogs, Puppies also need to eat

I am from Zhejiang and have been doing cross-border e-commerce for about 7 years. Last year, my sales were over 11 million US dollars, and my profit was over 10 percentage points. I lead a team and develop my own products. The projects I developed myself made about 4-5 million US dollars, and the rest was allocated by the company's resources.

The company has two days off a week and you can get off work on time. The salary is around 40, and when I left, my boss had already given me 50. But I still decided to change companies, and found one with similar salary that allows me to work on a new project with two days off a week.

As for the rest, you should consider it yourself. It has nothing to do with you how much your boss earns. What matters is your own ability. I have been working here for 2 months now. I wrote on Liepin that I have no intention of changing jobs, but I still receive a new job application every day.

I suggest you put up your resume and look for a job. Only when you find a more suitable job will you have the courage to change jobs. Otherwise, it will be in vain. I also strongly recommend not working alone. The experience of doing operations is completely different from that of developing and selling.

Puppies also need to eat • Ningbo

Brother, I want to ask how long you have worked in cross-border e-commerce to get this salary. I am a new graduate this year, can you give me some advice?

Anonymous User • Zhejiang

@Puppies also have to eat: 7 years

Abner666 - Over the mountains, across the rivers, wait for the clouds to clear and the moon to shine

Agree from: winwinwin

The best demonstration of testing ability is not a single product, but replicable experience. You can still succeed in changing companies and products. If others fail to promote it, it only means that your ability is good enough, but not the best. This may be related to the timing of entry.

Going it alone requires experience in running the entire chain, including product development, operations, logistics, and after-sales. The more you go in the future, the more you compete with the supply chain and funds. It is easy to run fast, but it is difficult to run steadily. People only remember those who got ashore, but in fact there are countless people who drowned in the water.

Whether you work or start a business, the choice is yours. It depends on your actual situation. The path that suits you is the most important. Always listen to your inner voice! Come on, cross-border people

Brazilian Beans

Agree with: 123juaner123, a lying Amazon, yyyanli

I interned at my first company before I graduated. I was young and energetic at that time, and my performance was very good. The boss kept increasing my commission. Later I found out that the commission of their regular employees was two or three times more than mine. The boss said that he would increase my commission after I had no classes and worked normally every day. Later, I graduated, but he didn't increase my commission because I hadn't received my diploma yet.

I talked to my boss about this matter, and afterwards, he made sarcastic remarks about me in every meeting. On the surface, he was using me as an example, but secretly he was being stingy.

Later, a classmate and a relative tried to recruit me, but it turned out to be just a move from one pit to another. You need to be cautious when changing jobs.

Anonymous user

I feel like our situation is similar. I have been working for two and a half years, and my base salary has only been raised by 500. My comprehensive salary (base salary + commission) has already been ranked No. 1 in the company. Every year, our sales target achievement rate is over 120% (profit growth is over 50%), but the boss just won’t raise my salary (he says the overall environment is not good, so the whole department won’t be adjusted, but I have achieved my performance target, so what was the performance target set for in the first place?)

I have decided to start working. I started taking leave last week to go for interviews. I received an offer from one company. The base salary has increased, but it is not as high as expected (currently 10, expected 18-20, and actually 16). This is my experience. You can refer to it or go to the interview yourself.

But I saw in your comment section that you can earn around 40 per year, which is pretty good for an operations position. If you want to move up, you can only be a management position or a partner who gets profit sharing without considering basic salary. My suggestion is that you don't try this year and try next year.

Anonymous user

My manager's link basically has a sales volume of 10 million RMB per month. The highest gross profit month was December 2022, the year before last, with a gross profit of 3 million per month. Last year, the company's overall sales volume declined a lot, but the gross profit was still 800,000 to 900,000 yuan per month. At the annual meeting in May last year, she alone contributed 45% of the company's gross profit. This company has been established for 6 years. Other operations basically have 2 to 3 million RMB per month. The company is of decent size, with 8 operations + 2 assistants and annual sales of more than 200 million. My manager also ran away at the beginning of this year.

Anonymous user

I'm curious about this question. Will the boss come to see it? I feel that most of the people who answer this question are operations people. I really want to see the boss help the original poster to answer the doubts.

In addition, if you have had the same experience, the boss will constantly urge the operation department to achieve growth performance, on the grounds that without growth there will be no results, and without results you should not get last year's commission.

Last year's net profit was 5 million yuan. If you want to get the same commission this year, you must get more than last year's 5 million yuan net profit.

Anonymous user

Agree with: mia's orders are booming today, Lingxi's little donkey, and puppies also need to eat

You make about 400,000 yuan a year, and more than 30,000 yuan a month is considered relatively high. What is your basic salary? If your basic salary is relatively low, you can directly ask your superior or boss to discuss it. If you dare not discuss it, just go to work and slack off. Don't worry about the store after get off work. Open a store of your own and sell 2-3 products to focus on your own store. Don't be afraid of trouble. If you are fired one day, you will have a way out.

Cool Me · Shenzhen

He probably won't be able to negotiate, because the boss probably wants him to negotiate, and if he doesn't agree, the boss will reduce his salary in disguise, or just let him go.

Anonymous user

Agree from: PUzhang, 17620496213, Matawang, Xiaoxiaosusu, lunanolan More »

The key is to see whether you participated in the development of the product or whether you were in a special position to operate it. If you are only responsible for operation, it does not matter how much money you make for the company. Good products will have similar basic operation models. If you participated in the development of the product, then you should raise it if it should, and you should raise it if it should not.

Anonymous User • Shenzhen

Our company has not yet developed the product. The product is an upgrade of the existing competitive products that are selling well in the Amazon category. It was developed after discussions with the operations team.

Cross-border retail · Shenzhen

If you have money, be patient. If you have some money, slack off. If you have no money, run away.

Anonymous User • Nanjing

@Anonymous User, what do you think? If you developed it yourself and made money, your boss will not let you leave easily. But you also said that if the operations team discussed it in a meeting, the boss's attitude would be different, and other operations teams could also discuss it after you leave.

I saw you said "but other operations except me have not been able to push forward", you have to know that the timing of entry is very important, the right time, right place and right people are all indispensable. The boss will let other people come in only if you push forward. If another operation pushes forward and then you are allowed to come in, do you have the ability to push forward?

Anonymous user

Agree from: 11AAaa, 123卷儿123, TAng7we, mia今日就爆单, hhhhhhhh123 More »

I don’t know if there are 20% of cross-border e-commerce companies in Shenzhen that offer two-day weekends. I have been working in e-commerce for so many years, and it has always been a long and short week system. I saw the reply from the poster above that I can get about 400,000 yuan for 6 million yuan, which is actually not bad. It’s a pity to carry a bucket. After all, it’s a real profit. If you have the ability, you can do some side business. . .

McDonald's only on Thursdays • Shenzhen

This is very pertinent.

C QYAu3 • Shenzhen

6.6% may be normal for a large company, but for an individual, 6.6 is very low

Li Bai Goes to the South

Agree from: 123juaner123, ccdzd1, Alley321, Green Pepper Desert, Black Plum Sauce More »

There is no need for you to stay in this company any longer. They are planning to get rid of you. What you need to do next is to boldly ask for a raise. If you still complain that there is no raise, don’t you understand? There is no need to resign if there is no raise. Start to clock in on time every day, prepare to slack off, leave work on time, record all relevant work content and salary records, and then wait for you to be laid off, and then apply for compensation. During this period, they will definitely disgust you and want you to leave on your own. It doesn’t matter if you have social phobia, this is a great opportunity to train you.

winwinwin

Since you are so dissatisfied, then go out and work on your own. But before you make a decision, please put aside your prejudice against the company, your complacency and pride, and objectively and realistically analyze the product from the perspective of supply chain, product development, capital chain and other resource integration: Is the success of the product due to you or the company? Are you irreplaceable? Can you replicate it after you go out and work on your own?

Anonymous user

Agree from: rainco, momo888

To be honest, if the boss has an employee like you, he will wake up laughing in his dreams.

Yin Hehe • Fuzhou

I am willing to work overtime until 2:00. As a boss, I think it is okay even if I have to come in the afternoon the next day, as long as the important things are solved.

Starry Night · Jiaxing

@尹盒盒: If you become a real boss, you won’t think this way.

Where the Clouds Hidden • Shenzhen

Not really. I worked for a couple in a startup a few years ago, from 0 to 500,000 yuan a month in gross profit, with a base salary + commission of 6k + 18k. They slandered me behind my back, saying that I got the most money and did nothing. It was so funny. I took the product to the second company and became the leader again. Hehe, I got ahead of them. It disgusts me. There are so many bosses like him who kill the donkey after it has done its work.

叨叨叨mi - Now is young

Agree with: rainco

The question is, after generating so much profit, how much of it do you actually get?

Anonymous User • Shenzhen

About 40W

Daitouyoung17 • Hangzhou

@Anonymous user 8~10% is a reasonable price

Don't Eat Glutinous Rice Balls • Beijing

@Anonymous user Actually, this is reasonable. It's basically like this. Your outstanding performance proves your ability. If it's not because of the salary, there's no need to resign. You can't just leave the store you built. I agree.

Anonymous User • Shenzhen

@不吃糯米丸子: Yes, it’s a brand new shop, and I’m still reluctant to give it up.

Xiaozhiche · Hangzhou

@Anonymous user, you can do it, be content, I worked for more than 10 million and didn't get this money

Ke Xiaobai • Shenzhen

@晓之车: Did you make it yourself? Why don't you mention the bucket?

Xiaozhiche · Hangzhou

@柯小白啊: I was fired in July last year and changed companies. When I first joined, the commission was 7%. Now the monthly net profit is more than 600,000, and the commission is directly cut to 1%. I was even fired. I laughed. No matter which company I go to, the result is the same.

melo veyou2018 • Shenzhen

@柯小白啊: Where can you find a job that pays 40,000 yuan a month? You only see that the boss earns 4 million yuan, but you don't know how much the boss spends. You may also be back to the days before liberation overnight.