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Follow-up of the partnership:
Before December, I must pay in the registered capital in full to retain my status as a shareholder. Otherwise, it will be deemed as an automatic waiver, and all the hard work I have put into building will be wasted on others.
The 20th year has passed quickly. When I went home for the Chinese New Year, I didn’t expect the lockdown. I rented a car at that time, thinking it would be more convenient to visit relatives. Who would have thought that the car would be parked there all the time and was useless, and the family would not allow me to go out casually.
On the fourth or fifth day of the Chinese New Year, I thought I couldn't stay at home anymore and had to go out to complete my "career". When I got off the highway to pick up my partner, they wouldn't let me in with my out-of-town license plate, so I had to wait at the highway exit. Then I drove all the way to Taiyuan, returned the car, sent my partner off, and stayed overnight.
Hi, the next day, everything was sealed off, we could enter but not leave, and we stayed there for more than ten days. After the situation was slightly relaxed, we could go out, and returned to our rental house. We contacted the community and the street, but we still couldn’t go back to work, so we stayed at home for a while. During that time, I slept during the day and played games at night. It was completely upside down. Thinking about it, it was actually quite beautiful. It was one of the few times I could indulge myself like this.
During this period, I did not forget what to do, contact people, and find ways to resume work, because the goods for the New Year had not been shipped out. Later, the community issued a notice that companies that wanted to resume work needed to submit certain information and prepare various materials, etc. I went there twice, but was not approved. At that time, Mr. W also called me every day to ask me to find a way to resume work, saying that I couldn’t wait every day. I knew it very well, but it was indeed difficult to resume work.
Preparation of materials and lack of supplies made Mr. W think of a solution. He went there for the third time and asked where the restaurant was, how to separate it, how to do disinfection, etc., and finally he passed.
I walked out of the community office with great joy, but damn, I couldn't find my car, my eDonkey was stolen, XXX. Looking at the empty street, I felt really bad. There was a surveillance camera downstairs, I went to ask, and they said that the surveillance camera was broken...
Oh, I admit it. Go home.
The next day, a few of us arrived at the company, and I began to register as required, contacting employees who were absent and making certifications.
Half a month passed, and there were still only a few people. Few people came, and we dared not start work. There was no goods, and we couldn't ship them. Most manufacturers didn't ship them. In this way, intermittently, we brought the goods to Taiyuan, packed, packed, and packed, and the cost increased a lot. The warehouse in Shenzhen was there, and a lot of goods had to be mailed to the logistics department.
After verifying the situation, I asked Xiao H and Xiao R to go to Shenzhen first to find a way to resume work. In the meantime, Mr. W kept talking to me, and he wanted Xiao R to leave. What happened? Last year, Mr. W went to Shenzhen once. He drank that night. Xiao R got drunk and beat Mr. W up. Why? See my frustration in the previous section. It may have something to do with this. Later, Xiao R broke a floor-to-ceiling glass in the restaurant. The boss asked me to pay compensation. I took out another 7,000 yuan online loan while drunk and paid it to the boss. I don’t know if it is worth so much money, but the situation at that time, alas, can’t be said. The boss stopped Xiao R from leaving, and the atmosphere was very tense.
After sending them back, I came over to apologize to the boss, who bought me a drink, and that was it. I don’t remember what happened next, but Xiao H came to pick me up, and I cried. The pressure was too great, and it was too hard.
Back to the topic, at this time, we sent several waves of goods in Taiyuan. After things returned to normal in Shenzhen, we sent the goods there. Sales volume also continued to increase.
But accidents always happen. I asked DeX to send our first batch of goods. There were no accidents. They added more after our original packaging. The packaging was very tight. The weight of each package was verified. Everything was correct. For the next 5 batches, Mr. W asked ShunX to send them. The weight was wrong, the number of pieces was wrong, and the package was lost. There were dozens of pieces in a large package. The last batch was even more outrageous. I only sent two or three packages, and it weighed more than 800 kg. Yuntu received the goods and verified that the weight was 160 kg. Damn it. The goods were sent late in the first place. I sorted everything out and sent emails to customers to resend or refund.
The damage inside and outside was more than 50,000 yuan. I don't know if there is a problem with the process. This salesperson has a big problem. I found out later that these weights were not weighed and went directly to the sorting. According to his original words, there were so many, so he estimated it and took it directly to the sorting, without unloading? ? ! !
This matter was delayed for a long time, and I made various complaints. Once I made a complaint, they contacted me to solve the problem, but the solution also involved threats. In short, in the end, the salesperson and the person in charge of the branch paid me 16,000 yuan in compensation. ShunX said at the beginning that it would pay 2,000 yuan, but later it simply refused to pay. It was all negotiated with the branch. I naturally couldn't accept it. Not only did they charge so much more for the freight, but they also threatened me when solving the problem. I talked to Mr. W about this and we reached an agreement that it would not be tolerated. (By the way, the goods are insured)
Unexpectedly, later, this salesperson found Mr. W and discussed something. Mr. W told me that if I paid 8,000, the matter would be over, right? ? ? ! ! ! (The numbers in this incident may not be accurate, but they are roughly the same. The screenshots, recordings, chat records, etc. are still there)
By the time we had solved this problem, it was already July, and sales were steadily increasing. One day, Mr. W called me and said that he had a 10 million yuan investment, and he wanted to invest, but of course, there were many other requirements. He asked me for my opinion. Considering the company's situation, I didn't need this money. We didn't have any subsequent strategic deployment for a while, so we should expand the scale and ship by ourselves. If we expand to such a large scale, we will die. We have enough cash flow to do FBA and high-quality products. There is no need to get this now. We don't know what to do if we get it right away. There may be problems later.
I can see that it doesn't matter whether I give him advice or not, he has made up his mind.
In October, I applied to go to Shenzhen through DingDing. According to Mr. W, it had to be formal, and no matter who it was, we had to follow the procedures. But unexpectedly, Mr. W called me back and said that I didn't tell him in advance, and so on, and he was just looking for trouble. In fact, I knew it was wrong, and his various practices were already very problematic.
I didn't tolerate it. We had a quarrel on the phone. We agreed to meet in person in the middle of the night. We were not as angry as we were on the phone. The main reason was that I kicked the wall when I was angry on the phone. It hurt a lot at the time, but with the support of adrenaline, we arrived at the meeting place and talked until 4 am (I was in so much pain when I got home that I couldn't walk. The next day, I went to the hospital and had a bone fracture ... ) . No matter how much I said, I just wanted to do it myself and kick me out.
The trip to Shenzhen was postponed for a few days. At the end of the month, Mr. W brought a very thick contract. The most important point was that I had to pay the registered capital before December to retain my shareholder status. Otherwise, it would be considered as automatic abandonment. Damn, I worked so hard to build it up, but now I am making wedding clothes for others. I knew this day would come, but I didn't expect it to be so shameless. I definitely won't sign it.
Later, the shares in the industrial and commercial sector were changed. Don't ask me, I don't know either. I am also confused. I did cooperate in changing some contents of the license, but there were no shares or anything like that.
Once, when I was chatting with the finance department, she told me that she was going to resign and didn't dare to continue working. I also know that the finance department is in a difficult situation now. In 2019, W was the one who recruited us, but later on, we often had different opinions, which made the finance department feel embarrassed.
He told me that Mr. W, employees, and my brothers all said that I "embezzled" a lot of money from the company in 2019, and later I also took a lot from some places. The finance department naturally didn't believe it. Before she came, I was the one who kept the accounts. Every expenditure was recorded very clearly, and I even paid for it myself. I was thinking about my own company and devoted myself to it.
Therefore, the finance department can see these account records. When Mr. W went on a trip, he asked the company to reimburse all the invoices for his entertainment. I disagreed, and neither did the finance department, but Mr. W said, "Can't I spend my own money?" Later, I compromised and told the finance department to let him do it. This made the finance department very tired and wanted to resign. Talk to me about these things.
The finance department didn't believe it, but of course there were people who were skeptical, which probably paved the way for the subsequent disintegration. Anyway, when they talked about it later, they told me about it. I could only laugh.
In the last two months of 2021, everyone has their own thoughts. Whether it is the employees or my brothers, they all want to get rid of Mr. W. It is too tiring. I am also well aware of these things, but now the funds are in the hands of Mr. W, and even the ERP is in his hands. It is not so easy to get rid of.
I am also thinking about how to develop in the future and how to solve the current situation of the company. I know in my heart that if I want to develop well, I can't go back and forth every day for management matters like now. In fact, I know that we must separate and are not on the same path, but I am struggling with the funding problem and can't solve it later.
Let’s stop here for now. This section is more about the flow. As I said before, too many things have happened and I can’t stop writing about many things once I start.
If this incident is a hurdle, time will eventually overcome it, as a part of the growth path. But everything that happened afterwards, until now, I still feel very uncomfortable. Whether you can let it go or not is one thing......
After the beginning of 21 years, we started to proceed according to what we had discussed before.
I compromised. During the previous discussion, I suggested that we withdraw our investment. Unexpectedly, Mr. W wanted to withdraw his investment. He said that he would withdraw his investment if I gave him at least 1 million yuan based on the current valuation of the company. I didn't understand it, but I knew that he wanted me to leave with nothing. I definitely didn't agree. The total investment was less than one-fifth of what he said. Was I crazy or was he imagining things?
The final result was that according to the annual return of 20%, the investment was given to him. At that time, I knew in my heart that if all the cash on the books and the money in this account were paid out, there would be about 400,000 left to Mr. W, but at that time, one account failed to KYC. There were more than 20 accounts that were suppressed and I was appealing. However, after confirming this, it didn't matter anymore. There was a way to get through it.
I found a law firm to draft a divestment agreement. When the contract was brought to Mr. W, he saw the contract I drafted. He frowned, then smiled and said, "You and your brother are so rigorous." "In that case, I have to ask my legal department to review the contract again." I said: It should be, being more rigorous is good for everyone. Before drafting the contract this time, it was Mr. W who said, "You should make the contract this time, so that you won't be accused of bullying you." Alas.
A few days later, Mr. W brought a new contract to me. I took a look and found that the original "withdrawal agreement" had been changed to "acquisition agreement". The content was changed based on my original agreement. In short, the positions of both parties were swapped. Originally, I asked him to withdraw his investment, but now it means that he doesn't want it anymore and wants to sell it to me. ... I do n't know what he thinks.
I just wanted to end this as soon as possible. I didn't care about these details. But I never expected that when I was about to sign the contract, Mr. W proposed to add 400,000 yuan. The reason was that the ERP was developed by the technicians he led, and the cost of ERP was an additional 400,000 yuan. I was already very annoyed. From the beginning to the end, it was me and the technicians who did this ERP. Moreover, since the beginning, the salary of the technicians has all gone to the company, and it is not borne by you, Mr. W, alone.
I couldn't help but think about it. I felt that after discussing this matter, he paid more attention to the reserved funds of the stores and found out how much the company had now. To put it bluntly, he still wanted me to "leave the company with nothing". Moreover, the information of the three better stores was registered by people he found, so he wanted to take back the stores. I felt very upset at the time. After talking to each other, the result was the same for me.
During our discussion, the employees were very negative, and sales were basically maintained, not growing, and many stores were also experiencing number sweeping. Mr. W kept calling every employee to talk about this and that, and they were all scared. At the same time, they also wanted to separate from him urgently and make things right.
Well, now that we have made the decision, let's go all the way. We redrafted the agreement, although it has changed from a thick stack to a simple one. But this may really satisfy what Mr. W has in mind. I proposed to pay in several installments, but Mr. W disagreed. I said that when I invested, I also paid in several installments. Now I am withdrawing my investment to you, so why can't I pay in several installments. He said that's different. Then he put forward his idea. He took all the cash on the books. The store's reserved funds were used for purchasing freight operations. At the same time, the remaining funds each month were divided into 6:4, part of which was returned to him and part was used for my company's daily operations. Before paying off the money, he held the account... ... . . . .
Under such unfair circumstances, I couldn't think of a way to refute it. I had to consider the company's future financial situation. So I signed it anyway.
If it went on as we agreed, it would be fine. However, it was normal for only one month. I got the money I was supposed to get back. From 2021 to June, I didn't get a penny. For half a year, I paid out of my own pocket and tried to get a loan. For this, I didn't want to ask my family for help, so I asked my parents to lend me money to maintain the business. I firmly believed that things would get better. But I underestimated human nature. Mr. W always had various reasons not to pay me.
Since Mr. W is like this, I can only do it my way. Let all employees take holidays, the store is closed, and all account email passwords are changed.
A day later, he called me and said he couldn't log into the store. After I explained the situation, the voice on the other end of the phone suddenly got louder and asked me to meet him. After we met, he yelled at me. I said: Since you, W, always want to get the money earlier, I am helping you. After stopping, there is no expenditure, and the return of money will be faster. Besides, I am the one who runs the store, so how I operate it has nothing to do with you. I know what you are thinking.
This went on for almost three months, and it was not finished until August. Of course, there were many obstacles in the way, so I won’t talk about them. In the end, I didn’t get what I deserved. I didn’t take any office computers or anything. But he had no control over the warehouse, and later he shamelessly asked me for various equipment in the warehouse. You have to understand that many of them were bought by myself, and why should I give them to you? In fact, at this point, what Mr. W was thinking, Sima Zhao’s intention is known to everyone.
I was also busy. In June, I was lucky enough to find an investor who was willing to help me. After receiving the first round of funding, I found a new office and set up the business. On July 26, we reopened the business. All employees came over. We will make great plans here in the future!
At this point, I don’t want to go on. If this is a hurdle, time will eventually overcome it, as a part of the growth path. But everything that happened later still makes me feel bad. Whether I can let it go or not is one thing, but it still makes me feel bad when I think about it. If I really did that, it wouldn’t matter. But I really paid from beginning to end.
It has been more than a month since my last post. During this period, I have been working on it and under tremendous pressure, which has led to slow progress in all aspects.
Today I have some free time so I will write about my experiences in 21-23 years. Actually, it was mainly because of various “breakups” that this matter came to an end. I was also able to continue my cross-border journey (pay back, pay back, pay back)
On July 26, 21, the same team was still there, just in a new location, and we started over. Only half of the store was left, and there was no ERP.
At this time, I actually made a mistake, a decision-making mistake, because we had other customers using our erp and warehouse before. We ourselves have our own set of operating practices. At this time, I still wanted to come up with an erp. After comprehensive consideration, I found a technology company in Shenzhen to redesign the ERP for me. It took two months to come out with the first version, and there were still many problems, and the warehouse could not ship. All orders were processed manually, including customers, and the fault tolerance rate was still relatively large. I have to say that I am very grateful to the customers who have always trusted me and chose to follow me in this situation.
Because this erp has been in use for too long, it has a great impact on self-shipping sellers. In addition, there is no store. In October, a new store was established. It is guaranteed that all the products can be taken to the store. But the efficiency is still relatively low. By the end of 21, in 5 months, sales were terrible, and compared with the previous period, the monthly sales dropped by more than 7 times.
Fortunately, ERP has taken shape again. Although there are still many problems, it can still be used. However, the first batch of funds has been consumed and there is basically no cash on the books. It is all in the store.
At this time, I realized that money really can't be spent. I planned cash too idealistically and there were many emotional things. However, I was not particularly worried because the customer's shipping fee had not been collected due to system problems. After collecting it, it would be enough to cover at least one month's expenses.
(Little H) But it wasn't smooth sailing after all. When it was almost November, Xiao H and I went to the warehouse in Shenzhen. Let me tell you, after the beginning of 2021, Xiao H flew back from Shenzhen, and Shenzhen was being handled by Xiao R and the recruited employees. On the way to Shenzhen. Neither of us spoke. I don't know what Xiao H thinks, because his opinions have a great influence on my decision-making. Needless to say, Xiao H has always had shares. Although he hasn't made any money yet, there will be people who care about these things. As for Xiao R, we called him over to work with us later. We also said that we would give him some shares in the warehouse.
Now I may have gotten rid of Mr. W. The investor I attracted was really a pure investor who basically never came to the company. I feel that I gave them an illusion that I was spending a lot of money but never mentioned them.
Why did he go to Shenzhen? Without my knowledge, Xiao R collected the freight from all the customers who owed him money, and spent it all. Some of them told me that they used it to pay off their credit cards, and some said they changed warehouses, and the original warehouse deposit was not returned. And they also wanted to talk about shares? ? ! ! This is a loophole in the company, but I was really backstabbed. The customers also knew that Xiao R was one of the persons in charge of the warehouse, and they did not hesitate and transferred directly.
After arriving in Shenzhen, at night, the three of us sat in the warehouse. Little R directly laid out his plan. He wanted 60, and Little H wanted 30, because they started the business in Shenzhen. Although Little H has returned to Taiyuan now, he is still responsible for this area. He gave me 10. I laughed. You know, I said at the beginning that the warehouse should be separated. There is not much to be in charge of. I will maintain customers there and solve any problems. You two are mainly responsible for logistics and delivery. There are three of us, I will pay 34, and you two will each pay 33. I didn't expect him to say that. In the end, we didn't reach an agreement. He had already rented the warehouse. At this point, the warehouse had to be moved.
During the days in Shenzhen, Xiao H didn't say anything, and didn't show any obvious intentions that night. I was actually a little confused. Did Xiao H think the same? Maybe both of them were deliberately avoiding these things.
After I went back, I had dinner with a few people from the company one night. During the dinner, I mentioned this matter. Maybe under the influence of alcohol, Xiao H expressed his thoughts: Xiao R has problems. He is not suitable to stay in Shenzhen any longer. This can be seen from the stock. He said that there are many things I don’t know and didn’t tell me. Xiao R once told him, “Brother, I am leaving. When I come back, I may bring back the money.” And other strange things.
I also knew what Xiao H was thinking. But I still hesitated. If I could decisively abandon it at this time, whether it was the people or the warehouse, it wouldn't be so ugly later.
Of course, the others were just eating and drinking, but I could tell that they no longer trusted me, how should I put it, and instead trusted what Xiao H and the others said more. I can't express this change in words, but people who have experienced it should know what it feels like.
After New Year's Day, a new year began, but due to reasons from Xiao H or myself, I was out of money. I asked the funding party for some money, because I had to get through the New Year. I didn't dare to ask for more because they said it was enough for the next six months. But I couldn't stop myself. What was even more annoying was that I owed 10,000 yuan for shipping. I transferred 6,000 yuan to Xiao R first, and he used it himself, and so on. He said that it was not enough even if I charged. At this time, many customers reported that many of the logistics issues they asked during the day were not responded to until the evening, and many of them needed them to deal with. The warehouse always sent it in the evening or late at night. I could see this, and I kept telling Xiao R not to do this. I slept until almost afternoon every day. There was a pile of goods. At this time, I realized why the employees didn't talk in the group. I asked. Xiao R was fired. He didn't tell me. I still transferred your salary to you.
At this time, something was getting more and more wrong. Fortunately, it was after the Chinese New Year.
After the beginning of 2023, two things made me anxious again. Xiao R held back the goods and refused to ship them. I was already very angry. The customer came to me and said that he would fly to Shenzhen to ship the goods by himself. I could not let the customer do it by himself. I called Xiao R and he asked for the freight. If he didn’t pay, it would be useless to ship it. It was also not okay to send the goods to the customer first. Xiao H and I were going to buy plane tickets, but due to the epidemic. I had to be quarantined when I came back. In my current situation, I had to go. I asked Xiao H and Xiao L to go. After processing the goods for a few days, when I went to process them on the last day, Xiao R locked the warehouse. I called him and he said that he was in Foshan and couldn’t go back. I asked a locksmith to open it. After packing and shipping, he left.
Later, I tried to contact Xiao R, but basically I couldn't get in touch with him. When he contacted me, I was in the hospital one day, and a client called me and said that Xiao R had sent a message to all clients, saying that the server was under maintenance and the system would be unavailable for two days. I immediately felt something was wrong. I quickly contacted the technical staff, and yes, the person in charge of the technical staff said that Xiao R had contacted him half an hour ago and wanted to come over to re-sign the contract. Because I was not in Shenzhen when I was deploying the server, I asked Xiao R to come over and register the cloud with his mobile phone number, so he could log in directly. I bought a new server and asked the technical staff to quickly migrate the data. As a result, the technical staff couldn't log in less than halfway through, and the password was wrong. Xiao R also went to the technical staff to get a new contract. He was the party A and asked to re-sign. Fortunately, when the contract was signed at the beginning, although Xiao R went to sign it, it was signed by one of my companies. I was also responsible for the transfer. The technical staff didn't recognize him.
This matter has passed, but I still can't log into the server or the account. It was already past 12 o'clock in the evening. I tried every possible way and finally contacted the human resources, submitted various information and identity proof. I changed my mobile phone number and other things. I reset it. Contacted the technical staff and it returned to normal.
At this time, I was scared. I was not the only one who was worried. I also had investments behind me.
The next day, Xiao R sent me a message: You are awesome, I don’t want to play anymore, I give up.
Who the hell played with you? I can't risk my life and property. I was terrified and said to me, Old L, do you really think I would take these away? I almost cursed, if I hadn't found a way to deal with it. Who knows what would happen next.
At this point, my relationship with Xiao R was over. He deleted me unilaterally, and all my money, equipment, and everything else were gone. The funny thing is that this incident caused such a big impact, but I didn't care about those people at all. Xiao R was the only one who made it impossible for me to contact him.
The second thing is that the shipping fees collected by Xiao R before involved duplicate charges, and basically all customers' shipping fees were involved. I recalculated and refunded them one by one.
tired.
episode In May 2022, Xiao R got a set of ERP and contacted all my customers, asking them to switch to his company. Of course, no one did so.
After this matter came to an end, our warehouse found a cooperative warehouse to ensure that our own and our customers' goods could be shipped smoothly. But it was really hard to start the year like this. There was no money, funds were tight, and the payment was slow. I went to the capital again with a licking face. In fact, at this time, I made another big mistake. I should have informed the capital of this matter in time and discussed with the capital about what to do next. Unfortunately, there is no if.
At this time, there were big problems within the company. We couldn't push forward the plan. Several key personnel were very lax. The first thing they talked about was money. In fact, in April and May, I talked about this in a meeting, but no one spoke up. In the end, I had to find a solution.
In 22 years, there have been several waves of epidemics. It is common that the goods cannot be shipped after being collected. Fortunately, I built a warehouse in Taiyuan. As a result, it was sealed off within a month, for a whole month.
(Small C 1)
During this period, something happened. I don’t know if you still remember Xiao C. He was the person who insisted on working with us at the beginning. He had no common sense and was really taken care of. His store was all dead for infringement. If you write, you have to write according to the site. It costs tens of thousands of dollars. It is really not worth it. It is better to buy an old store. But he didn’t want to write. I wrote for him several times. Later, I found a service provider and spent another 10,000. Then I stopped. I clearly told him not to waste time on this store, because his performance was not good later. I gave him several new stores, but he always failed to get started and his store was frozen. He found someone to write it himself. It cost more than 10,000. Now, he comes to ask me for this money, saying that this money should be borne by the company. You know, from July 26, 21 to now, his profit is -800. I don’t even want to say it. I didn’t dare to include the appeal service fee caused by the freezing of the store due to my own reasons. He dared to come to me to talk about this. I gave him a good accounting and even asked Xiao X, the company's operations manager, to come and take a look, because Xiao C always forgets what he says when he talks to him. He will forget what he said this time and come up with something new the next time.
In the end, he ignored me and said that he had to be reimbursed for the money anyway. I said you should do this first. If your performance is good, according to the company's rules, even if it has nothing to do with you and the store is frozen, you still have to deduct a part of your profit. You are now telling me that the negative profit is caused by your own infringement.
By the second half of the year, mainly due to funding issues, the salaries of employees were intermittent, and the purchase and delivery were also intermittent due to funding and the epidemic. I couldn't hold on any longer, so I found a way to borrow money to maintain the business. It was impossible for the capital side to make any more money under this situation, and I knew that it would be a bottomless pit if I made any more money now. There were already problems within the company.
There has not been much development in the past 22 years. There are too many things to do and energy is limited. Those who were able to share the energy later are no longer able to do so. Most of them just come to punch in.
I was thinking about how to break through this situation. I tried many methods before the New Year and also found people to cooperate with. But it was difficult. I invested myself and my family, but there was no solution at all. I was a little confused. I thought, just disband it. They can go home and do it themselves, and they will bear the procurement and shipping costs, and the company will provide various platform assistance.
This year was very difficult. I couldn't give an explanation to the management or the employees. To this day, I feel guilty about this. Most of the employees have been working with me since graduation, and they still don't even get paid. When I got to work in 2023, I told them that I had to think about it. Only one employee was willing to do it, so that was fine. I told them that if they wanted to use the company computers, they could just take them back and exchange them for 1,000 yuan.
(Little H)
Before the New Year, we talked about it. These past few years were too long and we were really tired. My family found a job for me, a firefighter, and asked me about it. I said let's wait, because I was applying for a loan at the time. If it can be approved, I can solve the difficulties and break the deadlock before starting. Later, I thought about it and gave up. I didn't know if it could be approved (it really didn't work out, because Xiao C messed it up). Let's go. We didn't talk about money. He knew that the company didn't have it, and I had lent him a few thousand yuan before. When it was rare, I was the only one who didn't have money and asked my family for it, so I gave him 10,000 yuan. Some accounts can't be calculated so clearly, just like the two of us. In fact, if we really have to calculate, no one owes anyone.
Before leaving, I went to eat. I didn't want to go. I didn't know what to say. I felt a little sad and uncomfortable. The people at the same table no longer had the same feeling as before. They didn't trust me or hated me from the bottom of their hearts. I couldn't tell. When they asked me to go, I said you go first, I'll wait. It should be almost over, I went over, they were talking about Xiao R, I went over, and they didn't talk. Hey, people. Finally, we paid the bill and left. No one paid the bill, so I went to pay the bill.
Back to the present, there are still Xiao L and Xiao X in the company. My original intention was to lead them and create brilliance together. Because at that time, the boss of the company opposite was doing cross-border business and had just started. After we talked a few times, we were interested in cooperation.
I never thought about it. One day, they asked me to write them IOUs, as if they had discussed it in advance. Actually, when the company was dissolved, I was afraid that the employees would think too much, so I wrote them IOUs and told them to tear them up after paying them back. I would not deny it. I also talked to them, but no one said anything. I said we would not do this anymore, and I would definitely give them what I owed them.
I don't mind writing IOUs. Some people wrote IOUs in such a way that they asked me to bear the handling fees for their credit card swipes every month, etc. I said that I would calculate the interest for you every month based on the unpaid salary. As for Xiao X, when he was working with the employer in 2019, I said that he would be given a bonus of 10,000 yuan, but I didn't give it to him later. I also said later that we are starting over now. If you bring up those things, I will come up with a solution. If you do well in the future, the bonus will still be given to you. They all agreed. In this situation, they come to settle accounts with me. This one wants this money, and that one wants that money. In short, in addition to the salary, they have to pay a lot. Whether they admit it or not, they will still hate me in the future. What also makes me uncomfortable is that during the epidemic, I told the company and the human resources department that there would be no basic salary during the epidemic holiday, and employees did not need to work at home, but the commissions that should be calculated would be calculated. As a result, the human resources department calculated full attendance for themselves every month, and they counted it all anyway.
At that time, my mind was in a mess and I was very tired. I thought, forget it, just let it be and just sign it for them.
After the incident, only Xiao L was left. As the person who started the business with me, I still believed in him. When things got tough, I borrowed money from online loans for him. Later, I lent him money from the company. I think I followed the crowd. I still felt that we could do it together. In order to solve the problem of survival, I found him a job at a client. He just needed to work in the company and didn’t have to go to work. Later, when the boss of the opposite company and I talked about cooperation, I wanted to bring him along, but he said no, let’s do it ourselves, etc. After two months of work, it didn’t work, so he went to look for a job.
(Small C 2)
One night, I received a call from the police. They said that someone named "Xiao C" had called the police and said that I had illegally used his information to take out a loan or something. After explaining it clearly, we were asked to negotiate on our own. Let's talk about the loan first. People who work on Amazon know that after reaching a certain sales volume, you can take out a loan in the background. Yes, that's the loan. And it's already been paid off. He now wants to ask me for the 10,000 yuan that I had complained about in the previous store. At that time, I paid for the four-room apartment, including property fees, heating fees, gas, etc. At this time, he didn't say that he owed me, but only said that I should give him. I found out when we met. He was defrauded of more than 40,000 yuan by telecommunications fraud. There was also borrowed money that he was anxious to pay back. At that time, he threatened me with his mother and asked me to see the chat records between him and his mother. His mother was in a government unit or had a relationship with the government. I can't remember the details. Anyway, if I didn't give it to him, he would sue me for illegally using other people's information to take out a loan. By then, the money spent would be more than a little. I didn't want to get involved, but it also involved my family. I was really tired at the time. There really wasn't a penny left at home. I found a way to lend him some money. Finally, one of my employees heard about it and without hesitation, he found a way to transfer the money to me, asking me to deal with the matter first, work hard, and not be trapped by these trivial matters. There is more to do in the future. I was moved and I was speechless. I didn't know what to say. After giving the money to Xiao C, he seemed to have changed into a different person, back to his original self, chatting with me and so on. I smiled, ignored him, and left.
(XiaoX, etc. 1)
Later, the HR asked me for money, saying that I only made 2,000 yuan a month outside and it was not enough. At that time, I still felt sorry for my brothers and did not do a good job for the company. But when you were here, your salary was 4,500 yuan, and you are telling me this now.
I got engaged in 22 years, but I actually didn't want to do it, but my wife said she wanted to do it, so she did it on their side. She decided to get married in September 23. When she was about to get married, Xiao X said she had no money, but she didn't delay anything. She got married and got married, and did whatever she should do, saying that the decorations she made during the engagement could be of no money. I had already shown them the records on the PDF, and used them first and then paid. Decorative boards, three golds (fakes), etc., were all paid 0 yuan, and it's been a year since they were paid. Even so, it doesn't work, and I always felt that I had reservations. I even said that I bought a house, a car, and a waiter in Taiyuan. I also took the company 90,000 yuan for myself. I don't know where these came from, yes, I firmly believe that it's not groundless.
I asked various questions and found out that Xiao C had a purchase contract in my office documents. This started by spreading rumors. But if you look at this, you will know that this address was the place where we rented at the time. This was the "information" provided by the intermediary when we wanted to do a loan.
However, no one listened to the explanation. Xiao X said to me: If you don’t have money, if you don’t have money, your wife can’t do brides, if you don’t have cars or houses, you can marry you. How excellent are you? I want to refute, but who believes it? I also feel sorry for my wife.
Before getting married, my family found a way to borrow money for me to prepare three gold and bride gifts, but after spending it, I asked me to give you money and company operations money. Some of them didn't tell my wife that she had a quarrel, and she contacted her relatives and said she couldn't get married. During that time, I was really at the bottom of the valley and was confused every day. Later, her parents took us to see "fate" and then told me that this matter was over. My wife also said that it was not that I would not let me use it, but we discussed it. Since I chose you, I believe you, and I just like you to be your fighting spirit.
We quarreled for countless nights and cried in embrace each other. We really didn’t understand. We were worried about eating every day, fearing that we would not even have a place to live on one day.
One month before marriage, we have to prepare all kinds of things, what should we do if we don’t have money? Save as much as we can, and give 200 deposit of 1,000 yuan . In the end, we were not ready. A week before marriage, after work in the afternoon, Xiao X, Xiao L, and four others asked me for money and said they would not give it to me when they got married. I really didn’t expect that I could say such things, let alone I said before that there must be gifts or something to do when I got married, and I can also pay you back first.
(Car accident)
At around 12 o'clock that night, I walked back from the company. During that time, I worked part-time, takeaway, and delivered these things quickly. The takeaway company provided an electric car. The bike I rode, maybe it was because it was fast, and it was all about these things in my mind, maybe it was the ambitions of 2018.
I woke up again. I was on the side of the road. A couple happened to park their car and quarreled on the side of the road or something. They helped me to the side of the road. When asked if I called 120, I said I would help me find my phone first and report their phone number. I found my phone more than 50 meters in front of my car accident. I moved, but I couldn't get up, and my left hand couldn't move. My face was bleeding. I wiped my tissues, but I didn't have any nosebleeds. It was my upper lip and turned up a piece of flesh. I asked them to help me call 120, but I didn't come over. The two of them helped me to their car and sent me to the hospital. Here, I thank them again, without a word.
I helped me advance the fee and called a friend. They had just left, and it was already past 5 o'clock.
My mother received a call from me, and my friend said something, and I heard crying there, and my dad was cursing.
The next morning, my friend pushed me to sew my upper lip for more than a dozen stitches. When I came out, I saw my mother, my dad and my sister, and she kept her tears back. They helped me too much, and my sister gave me all the New Year's money and pocket money she saved.
Four days before the wedding, my parents took me back to my hometown for surgery. I went in early that morning for surgery and had total anesthesia. When I came out, my consciousness was unclear. My relatives came to see me. It was just after noon and I hadn't recovered. I vaguely saw the personnel (I haven't told this person that this person is my junior. In short, I might be taking care of them by myself) and his sister.
After I woke up at night, my dad asked me obscurely, afraid that I was in a bad state. I said directly, if I came to ask for money, I didn’t want to believe it at that time. I went from far away, 300 kilometers, and the t* man came over to ask my dad for money on the day of my car accident. I vaguely listened to his sister that his brother followed him to pay 20,000 or 30,000 yuan in Guangzhou, and he had to come back to do it with me, and he would get two or three thousand a month. If I hadn’t woken up, I really wanted to ask, your brother could not make it there, and he could not get one or two thousand a month. When he came back to do it, he took care of me everywhere. When the rent could not be paid, I found a way to lend him money and paid the rent.
Who am I? I borrowed it, I owe it, I recognize it, I don’t know how to send it, and I won’t reply, even if I give it little by little. When I first started, I didn’t have money, and I could borrow 400,000 from my address book. I was an ordinary person, and I had no character, and I could do this.
That night, the anesthetics passed, and I felt pain. I felt pain all night. I was full of my mind, thinking about these messy things, blindly giving, without reservation, but what I got was this. There was always someone who felt that you were hiding it. At this time, I still had "goodness" in my heart.
The day before my marriage, I was discharged from the hospital and prepared to get married. Because my wife and grandfather were cancerous, I wanted to see him get married, so I decided to get married before. In this situation, as long as I am willing, I still want to hold a wedding, no matter what others say.
The night before the wedding, Xiao X, Renmin and three others came to ask for money. I remember this humiliation. The money and cash borrowed by my father, my aunt, my aunt and other relatives were counted out one by one to them. At that time, my mind was blank, and I followed the host and didn't care about anything.
I slept for two hours at night and spent an hour getting up to wear clothes, which was inconvenient.
Because of the impact of this incident on me, two fingers, four joints, fractures of varying degrees, broken bones? (It was broken quickly, I couldn't apply steel plates, fixed steel needles, and healing funds), three facades (teeths) were completely broken, and there was a scar on my face of varying degrees, and I couldn't squat on my left leg.
(marry)
No matter what. In the morning, my wife's house was lively, and his friends knew that I was injured, so they played games in a process and did not let me participate too much. They seized the time and welcomed it out. They took photos with their grandparents and parents and gave them tea.
When I went back to change my clothes and walked on the ceremony, I regretted that the scars on my face and the wounds on my hands. The most satisfying thing for the whole wedding was the clothes, Chinese style. This clothes were the only ones we both went to Zhengzhou to find.
What I unexpectedly expected was that the boss of the company opposite, Mr. T, came here, gave a gift, and rushed back after a meal. Thank you for your trust.
After the end of the day, my wife said too much because I can't drink it, and it was all his drinks. This is a bit regrettable. I had thought of drinking one with my friends when I got married. I would like to thank me for having a few childhood friends, and they helped me with it all the time.
There are regrets, but on such an important day, I should grow up too.
(Little L)
After a while of rest, I went back to the company and unexpectedly found that Xiao L was in T headquarters. Later, I asked Mr. T. After that, Xiao L knocked on the office door and came to me after my car accident. I didn't win him over when it was inconvenient for you. Later, Xiao L also asked me with a smile, "What would you give him money?" He also said that I didn't follow them to ask for money, so you can't thank me." ······
After settlement, I basically don't owe it. Who knows what people said? I've been with you for so long, so you can't compensate me 10,000 yuan. After all, no matter what I say, I still want to get some money from me...
What is a vampire? I don’t know, and I hope you won’t know either.
A long time later, Xiao X and Human Resources came to me. When the company was dissolved, the company would give it to whoever you want. The company would handle it. The employee did it himself. At that time, it agreed that the income within one year would be 73 points, and it would have nothing to do with the company a year later. During this period, the company provided various help and other things.
Xiao X, the license is not his own, it is Xiao H's. I said I will deal with this later. He wants it. I said you go and negotiate with Xiao H. Both stores are frozen and there is a lot of money in it. I actually asked me to bear the cost of opening a store. I fuck. Is it something that I can say? Do you want it? I don't care if I cancel it.
I took all the abnormal costs incurred by the license later, and I went to cancel the abnormal costs and didn't even need 200 yuan, so I ran away. Let me bear it.
There are also companies' mobile phones, computers, etc. that have been taken away, and I will not reply to the message.
A long time later, someone came to me and said why he couldn't log in to his account system...
Or just be a "bad person". It is different from "bad person" doing "good things" and "good people" sitting on "bad things".
There are many, many, many, and I don’t want to write anymore. Sometimes I write it on a whim, but I don’t worry about these things and people. There is no so-called right or wrong, good or bad, everyone has their own position. Be good and improve yourself, better than anything. OK, end.
24 years are almost over. I endured too much pressure every day, passively limiting my progress in work, etc. On the one hand, is this recorded? On the other hand, it is just a vent. For the remaining few months, hurry up and make money, make money, make money!
Next is the "History of Cross-border Struggle and Debt Repaying" o(╥﹏╥)o
A "happiness" is attached. I wish all comrades who are struggling on the cross-border road good health, happiness and prosperity, and make a lot of money after getting rich!!!!!!
(Pictures are from Zhiwubuyan Community User: Abbot Dream)
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Agree from: Jiangnanjun who embraces the change, the Lion of the Sea 2019, Dream Abbot, Low-key Little E-commerce, DTMDPD More » I have finished reading the whole article. I graduated in 2018, and I also graduated in 2018. I should be about the same age. I also started my own business and didn’t have a single deposit at the beginning. I just had a credit card and it was also self-delivered. But the result is still unsatisfactory now. However, I have not partnered with anyone. I would rather start doing it bit by bit, starting from what I am good at, and then doing what I am good at.
I feel that you are a person who values loyalty and has a more "warrior" spirit
But you don't seem to be clear about it. Doing business and getting along with each other is never the same thing.
Starting a business in 2018 is at least the tail of the golden age. If you go right, you will never be like this now. Just learned FBM and did not have outstanding performance during your employment, which means that you are at least not very good at operating capabilities.
When I run the operation at work, I focus on ERPs. I really can’t figure out that any ERP is more than enough for a start-up seller to open a v1, such as the store x secret. I waste a lot of my time and energy on developing the so-called ERPs, but I didn’t determine my share of the future income of ERPs from the beginning. And when the performance started, why did I recruit so many people? Have you done your basic plan well? Can your business be copied?
It's about setting up an office, hiring people, investing in shares, and this and that. In the last 19 years, there was only 6 million yuan in performance. To put it bluntly, the couples in the urban village in Shenzhen have done more than you have to do. In your own hands, do you still have money? And even if you have been stabbed hard, you will suffer a lot in the partnership.
In the story that follows, you are still thinking about finding someone to cooperate, rather than streamlining the business, reducing personnel, clarifying the shares, and focusing on doing the business you are good at. It would be fine if you didn’t catch the dividend tail in operation, but in fact your Xiaoyun Warehouse model is also remarkable, and you will make a lot of money if you do it well. But in the end, it fell apart, and friends didn’t have to do it, and customers probably complained.
Apart from that W and Xiao C, W will not talk about it. He has no good intentions from the beginning, and C will not talk about it. The pure elm is the same. If it were me, he would have let him get out in less than a month. Several other people have actually followed you for a long time. How many twenty years old can you be in your life? At the age of prime, I have not made any money with you for two or three years.
To be honest, it is a miracle to be able to break up for so long. But after all, you should not say that being a friend in life; but when doing business, especially in partnership, you should avoid emotional matters. Just discuss money, things, and people, and you must separate.
Finally, I wish you a smooth journey through the ups and downs Embrace the Changes of Jiangnan Jun • Suzhou • 3 days ago I agree very much, I can't understand the ERP period. Why do I have to spend so much energy and time doing this? In 2019, I won't be like this if I open a random FBA product. At that time, several products took off due to the epidemic.
Dream Abbot • Shanxi • 3 days ago Thanks for the analysis and reply. I realized some things and made wrong decisions at some points in time. Operations is indeed not too strong, and I have never sold very high performance. In the operation team, I am more of analyzing, studying various policies, and so on.
The ERP is also a big mistake. At the beginning, due to the influence of our environment, we believe that ERP is a very important thing for self-delivery, saving time and improving efficiency. In the company, each company will spend more than ten thousand to buy ERP or develop it by itself. The store secretary has also used these, and the efficiency is too low, so I won’t say this.
After starting over, we should not pay too much attention to this speed. We put a lot of energy and funds on it. We have realized this and thought we could still copy the previous ones, but we forgot that the times have changed.
I also said that I pay too much attention to feelings and act erectile dysfunctionally. Many times, my mind is confused and I always think about it. This is really bad. They are not good later, and I didn’t get anything good either.
I had a low vision in recruiting people. At that time, I mainly used self-delivery and didn't think about doing FBA or anything else. At that time, each store thought that there was a certain upper limit, and recruiting people would solve this problem better, and this area was not well controlled. Especially after starting over in 21 years, there was no systematic optimization, including my own thoughts, including my own ideas, and I still followed the previous ideas.
Yuncang is indeed profitable and has a low cost. Alas, after the R incident, it gradually fell apart. As for these friends, you are right. How many twenty years old can you live in your life? You are in your prime and have not made money in two or three years. No one can stand it. But I was destined to be destined to be too good when I parted. Even if I don’t want to admit it, I have a big reason. Not everyone can adjust it. Thinking about these things clearly requires someone to take care of them. I can put the result on me no matter what kind of result, but I can’t accept that way or such a face.
Finally, I am also very grateful for such a serious reply. Whether I have realized the problem or not, for me now, I will make me think more and think more. May we all have a bright future and smooth sailing
Dream Abbot • Shanxi • 3 days ago @Jiang Nanjun, who embraces changes: At that time, my horizon was very low, and I wouldn't do it either. I wouldn't do it either. Due to the influence of our environment, our thinking was different. Looking back now, of course, I feel like a stupid X at that time, and many things could be different. But I have experienced it all, as a lesson. Please try to reduce some mistakes on the road ahead.
Embrace the Changes of Jiangnan Jun • Suzhou • 2 days ago @Dream Abbot: People can only earn money within their own cognition. I didn’t understand it before and thought the chicken soup was very strong, but after reading this whole sentence, this sentence is suitable for most of us. Your wife’s family is really good. You will always experience some things when you are young, and I hope you can stand up again and set sail.
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Agree from: rainco, ordinary passerby B, aaasun, crab crab, Dream abbot more » I typed a lot of words and deleted them. The words seemed so pale and powerless, and they didn't have any comforting effect. Maybe most of the brothers in the forum have never experienced such disgusting things. I can understand your feelings. I am helpless in anger. Human nature cannot stand the test. Don't think too much about this. The road to the highest level is as iron, and now I have to take a step back. Dream Abbot • Shanxi • 2024-07-16 15:31 It resonated, and I typed a lot of words and deleted it. I hope that the day when the light boat has passed through thousands of mountains will arrive early.
Anonymous user Agree from: Linkzr, DingBond, Wolf of the Grey Sheep, Lady of the Disguise, Taro Round Bob More » I worked together twice, and both times ended in failure. The first time I thought I met Bole. The company started from 0. Everything was done by myself. The partner was responsible for investment, and I was responsible for operation and management. Later, I made a scale, reduced salary and stocks, and could not participate in more core business. I became Bole for the second time, and found a few people who thought they were Qianlima, but were finally overshadowed by Qianlima Partnership. Now I set out myself and did it again. No one could stop me!
Anonymous user Agree from: Dream Abbot Human nature is always more prominent in the face of interests. It is best to sign an agreement before a partnership with others. The more detailed the agreement is, the more detailed the agreement is, the more you should avoid disputes in the future. Or you should work alone and take all your responsibilities. There have been saying online that the boss still goes out to work and earn money to support employees. This is not unreasonable. There are no practical difficulties, only the troubles of being in the same place. Come on! Stranger.
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Agree from: Grey Sheep's Wolf I also devoted myself to Amazon after resigning, but I was quickly abused by reality and was completely exhausted. I had all imagined that I had been forced to take off the shelves due to infringement, poor advertising, tight inventory, and various accidents in the supply chain. I often couldn't sleep at night, and my anxiety and pressure were really great, but now everything is getting better, and it's still comfortable to go to work~ Dream Abbot • Shanxi • 2024-07-16 15:34 Yes, from time to time I would think that if everything was done step by step, there would be no such impulsive startup. Maybe life would be difficult. But at least it was not as hard as it is now.
Roji868 - Salted fish that you still hope to turn over during the epidemic Agree from: lllyyy But don't join forces. Brothers who are involved in money will have a quarrel. I have seen someone join forces before, and then they keep digging holes for a partner and letting him take the blame. In the end, all the birds are revealed. You will either compensate or you will give up the shares in your hands and kick them out directly. Dream Abbot • Shanxi • 2024-07-10 16:44 Yes, I'm about the same
Roji868 • United States • 2024-07-11 17:39 It's very dangerous, I'm afraid I will pay myself in one go
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Agree from: JoeeoL, ccdzd1, GloriaLopez, lllyyy Never work together. You would rather borrow money and hire someone to work together than work together. Especially relatives, you think you are generous and the other party wants more. This is my personal experience. No matter what, you have to be wholly owned.
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