Single female operator born after 1995: I will be 30 next year. Will I be asked about my marital status during the interview? I have seven years of experience in boutique operation. What kind of salary can the market offer?

After graduation, I came to Shenzhen. This is my seventh year. The first company I worked for was a startup. I started as an ordinary operator and then became an operations team leader. However, because we were working on holiday products, our performance was okay, but the long-term work intensity was high. I worked during the day and overtime at night, sometimes even all night. The early overtime workers could not get off work until 8 or 9 o'clock. I couldn't stand it anymore, so I quit.
  
The second company I joined was a pioneer. From 2019 to now, except for development (I understand the theory and can give suggestions to developers to develop products, but I have never developed products myself), I have basically done all the work (helped recruit people, registered stores, built warehouses, and formulated regular inventory of incoming and outgoing warehouses, and was able to handle operations and all emergencies in the process). In 2023, my annual sales will be around 6 million US dollars, with a gross profit of 18%, not counting the team's performance. The salary was generally good before, but after the previous developers left, the products provided by the new developers were not good enough.

The advertising costs for new product launches this year are basically high, and the low pricing results in sales but no profits. I want to go out and see if there are any companies with better products.
 
But since I am a single girl born in 1995, I will be 30 next year, and my age is still 28 this year, hahahahaha. I would like to ask you if you will be asked about your marriage and love status when you go out for interviews now? And what kind of salary can the current market offer?

"Wonderful Reply"

Mandy Rong

Agree with: Miss Bread 2024, What is the real and fake Job?

Hello, from your post,

You want to:
1. See if there are any companies with better products;
2. Better salary than now;

But you are afraid:
1. I can’t find a company with “better products” because of my age;
2. The pay will be worse than it is now.

On the surface, it seems to be workplace anxiety caused by salary reduction, but in reality it is the anxiety about marriage, love and age that is about to reach its peak at the age of 28 (no offense, because I have experienced it too and can empathize with it).

Before I worked at Amazon, I worked in human resources recruitment. Based on my past experience, women's marriage and love issues are definitely something that HR and companies will pay attention to and weigh during the recruitment process. You may also miss some opportunities because of this issue. This is a very realistic problem, and when you ask this question, you already roughly know the answer.

Back to what you said earlier, the company's product profits were good last year, and your salary was also good, and then you attributed the decline in profits this year to "changing the product development personnel" and "the product developed by the new developer is not good". If it is really that simple, this problem is actually not difficult to solve. Tell the company that the new developer is not capable enough and needs to be replaced. From what you said earlier, you opened up new opportunities for the company, and last year your company created a gross profit of more than 7 million RMB. You should have the right to propose replacing a developer.

Putting aside the development capabilities of developers, it is an indisputable fact that prices are more competitive this year than last year. This means that even if you can find a so-called "company with better products", the profits will still be low because the entire market is pushing prices down, and you will be forced to follow suit, resulting in no profits or even negative profits.

Your last question is about the current salary in the market. Actually, you have been in this industry for so long, you know the general level to some extent. What you care more about is what you can get after you go out with your experience. It is very simple to verify this. Go to the recruitment website (such as Boss Direct) and talk to the HR. If you have the opportunity, go to talk offline first, and you will know roughly what range you can get.

Finally, let me share my personal suggestions. They may not be correct, but they are just to give you some reference.

1. It was mentioned earlier that you have been exposed to almost all sectors except development. Then, is it possible for your current company to give you the opportunity to really develop products, to make up for the shortcomings in this area, and to prepare for the possibility of working alone in the future?

2. Evaluate and analyze whether your current boutique operation capabilities are really valuable and can be monetized? Can you outsell most low-priced products if you are given some good products? If you want to find a company with good products and sell your boutique operation experience to make them believe that you can bring greater profits, how do you sell yourself and your experience?

3. Face your current anxieties, but don't let them affect your current judgment. As you said, the company had good profits and salaries last year. If you don't have any debt, whether you stay in the current company and follow the company's changes and difficulties for a while, your life will not suddenly become very bad. Or if you look for an opportunity to leave for a while, you should have some savings to support you for a while, so there is actually nothing to worry about.

I hope you can find your answer soon!

Anonymous user • Dongguan • 2024-08-29 09:54

Thank you very much for your analysis and suggestions. I currently have no debt and my storage rate is okay. I had an answer in mind before posting this, but I just wanted to hear everyone's suggestions from multiple perspectives.

Anonymous user

1. Regarding salary: As a single woman in her 30s, I quit my job in June this year to start my own business and partnered with a friend to start Amazon. I interviewed several Amazon operations some time ago, and also chatted with several operations on Xiaohongshu. Due to the overall environment, the overall salary of Amazon operations has been reduced this year.

In your case, I may give you a basic salary of around 8K (two days off a week, no overtime, and holidays synchronized with the national schedule). Previous interviews usually require 12K+ commission. Since I am currently a startup, I may want to save some money on operating costs. Also, I have to take care of many things myself, and I only need to focus on product promotion in operations. I can share resources and everything.

As for the salary of other companies, I saw in the recruitment group that the base salary is 8K-10K, + commission. The actual amount depends on how much you can negotiate with the company, but according to the current market situation, it should not be too high. Another thing is that some companies interview with clichés, operation skills, etc., and there are some interview questions (run away if you encounter them).

2. About age: To be honest, I have been working in Shenzhen for more than ten years, and I have interviewed no more than three companies. I came to Shenzhen after graduating from university. My first job was an internship at a senior sister’s company. Later, the senior sister introduced a friend to me, who taught me how to do AliExpress, and I started to get involved in cross-border business. Later, I changed several jobs (basically introduced by suppliers), but there was only one interview, and the boss personally found me and asked me to talk at Starbucks, and then I started working directly.

According to the current market situation, your age is a bit awkward. Companies are worried that you will get married right after hiring you, and have children right after marriage, etc., and they will consider the cost of hiring. During the interview, you will definitely be asked when you plan to get married? When are you considering having children? How many children do you want? And so on. Most employers may prefer to hire people born after 1998. 2-3 years of operational experience is enough.

Before looking for a job, you must first understand the company's situation, especially the points that you care about, and then make an appointment for an interview. Don't waste your time in such a hot day, and time is also a cost.

Anonymous user • Shenzhen • 2024-08-28 17:32

Thank you for sharing. I have chatted online these past two days with some medium-sized companies of a certain scale, and they can offer a basic salary of around 20,000.

Plant a tree • Shenzhen • 2024-09-02 10:13

We also have two days off a week and no overtime, it's a small company. In Shenzhen, you offer 8k based on your experience and performance, I really don't know how you can say that, I also interviewed and recruited people, this year the salary for recruiting excellent operations has generally increased, many can offer 15-30k.

Fish in the Desert • Shenzhen • 2024-09-14 11:25

I'm dying of laughter. No one is going to go for 8,000 yuan.

Haohailan • Shenzhen • 2024-10-21 10:57

@面包小姐2024: The base salary is around 20,000 yuan. I am interviewing for an operations position, not a management position?

Haohailan • Shenzhen • 2024-10-21 10:57

@漠地鱼鱼: I also think 8k is too low

Haohailan • Shenzhen • 2024-10-21 10:58

@种一个树: Yes [I really don’t know how you can say it] It’s really weird

Anonymous user • Shenzhen • 2024-10-21 13:46

@澔海蓝: It’s not just an operations position.

It should be like this

As an interviewer, my thoughts are:
It’s actually not that bad for people under 30. They will pay attention to their marital status, but it’s not the focus. Anyway, I haven’t asked about these myself, but HR may pay attention to it.

People will start to pay attention when they are around 35, mainly to the risk of fertility. Although I support employment protection for women, to be honest, in recent years, if there are many women in a department, 1 to 2 of them will have children every year. This does create a lot of obstacles to work adjustments, and management adjustments are even more difficult, so people have to consider this risk.

But if you show good overall qualities and business awareness in the interview, I think a score of around 35 will not be a problem.

As for salary, asking in the forum is not very meaningful. You will get a clearer picture by talking to the recruitment managers of several companies. It is defined based on the recruitment position, team size, per capita output, etc. So it is not enough to just look at the product. Even if the product is good, the back-end R&D and production account for a large proportion. If the per capita output on the operation side is not high, the salary will not be much higher.

Anonymous user • Shenzhen • 2024-08-27 10:36

Yes, that makes sense. Thanks

Anonymous user

Agree from: Miss Bread 2024, Rainco, Hao Hailan

It happened that I changed jobs in May, and during the resignation and handover period, I interviewed with several companies. My age is similar to the questioner, so I can share some of my experiences.

About marriage and love: About 90% of the companies I interviewed asked about this. After I said I had a partner, they would ask about my views on marriage and how close my partner was. When I resigned, my former boss suggested that it would be easier to just answer "no" when asked if I had a partner while I was still single.

Regarding salary: I didn't interview with management, so I don't know what the salary range for management is, but during my interviews, I negotiated salary increases of approximately 30%-50%, and only one or two people said that my increase was slightly higher (it might also be because my original base salary was low).

Job market atmosphere: For those with excellent abilities, sincere recruiting companies will want to know more about you. You can learn more. There are so many cross-border companies, and each operation model is different. I hope you can find a company that matches you well. Come on.

Anonymous user • Dongguan • 2024-08-29 14:11

Thank you very much for sharing. I hope we can have a chance to discuss and learn together. Haha.

30 Earn 2000w

Agree from: Miss Bread 2024

I am two years younger than the poster. If I am not busy, I will participate in the operation and development interviews. I have had rich interview experience before (manual dog head).

Regarding love and marriage issues, it depends on the preferences of the boss and HR. My current company basically does not ask these questions. During the interview, more emphasis is placed on past promotion performance, experience, operational ideas, etc. What may be involved for individuals is career choice and planning, distance of residence, etc. Family factors are relatively rarely involved.

Based on the author's experience and achievements (so impressive), if it is purely the achievements of your own team or individual, referring to the income of several big guys in our company, you can probably get a base salary of 30,000 yuan and a commission of about 6-8% (need to negotiate with the boss yourself), but if you go out for an interview, you have to consider whether you can replicate or re-create a similar product line and achieve similar results. (If you feel that there is no major problem with the current company, I don't recommend changing jobs~)

Anonymous user • Shenzhen • 2024-08-27 14:30

Hi, thank you for your reply. The current salary is good, but the product strength is not good. After the failure of launching new products, I have to keep consuming the profits of old products. Also, there is no hope. Hopeless efforts and actions will really drain a person, so I want to look at other companies.

30 earns 2000w • Lu'an • 2024-09-02 08:55

@面包小姐2024 Indeed, so now in addition to my main job, I am also trying to open my own shop. Boring work is indeed easy to wear down people's enthusiasm, and to be honest, I am still relatively young. If I am well prepared and think about it, I can go out and try again. Sometimes a risk can really make a big difference. I changed jobs twice in two years and my salary quadrupled. My horizons and industry experience in all aspects have also broadened and enriched as I meet more and more people. Come on, come on, I wish my sister all the best!

Haohailan • Shenzhen • 2024-10-21 10:50

@Miss Bread 2024: That’s true. It’s difficult to promote new things.

Haohailan • Shenzhen • 2024-10-21 10:51

@30赚够2000w: I was convinced to change jobs [I changed jobs twice in two years and my salary quadrupled]. I started in Hangzhou for one year and have been in Shenzhen for two years. With three years of experience, the base salary is still quite low. The two years of experience in this company has given me growth.

Anonymous user

About "In 2023, personal annual sales will be around 6 million US dollars, with a gross profit of 18%"
Personally, this is a very impressive performance data.
I'm just curious.
1. Did you build it from scratch? How long did it take?
2. Did you take over other people’s old products before the annual sales reached 6 million US dollars?
3. Are there any assistants or other colleagues who assist in achieving this sales performance?

4. Gross profit = 6 million US dollars x 0.18 = 1.08 million US dollars, based on an exchange rate of about 7 (last year's average is uncertain),
Then 108W USD X7 = 756W (RMB)
Assuming that the gross profit margin is usually around 2%-10%, the assumed value is about 5%.
756Wx0.05=37.8W
Assuming a value of about 8%
756Wx0.08=60.48W
Or other values ​​plus base salary over 10,000, starting from 120,000 per year

5. Annual sales of 6 million US dollars divided by the average monthly sales of 12 months
6 million US dollars / 12 = 500,000 US dollars. Therefore, the average monthly sales is about 500,000 US dollars divided by the average daily sales of 30 days.
500,000 USD/30 = about 16,700 USD. So, the average daily sales is about 16,700 USD. Assuming the average customer order is about 50 (blind guess)
16700/50=334 orders

Is this how the whole thing is broken down and calculated?
I don't expect any reply, I just ask out of curiosity...

Anonymous user

Agree from: Miss Bread 2024

When you change jobs, you will be asked about your marital status. Don't be too anxious. There are plenty of older single women who value ability more.

Personally, I feel that the overall recruitment market is not very good now. Compared with the previous situation with the same salary, recruiting companies will have higher requirements for applicants.

Individuals can try to submit resumes first to see the market situation, and then decide whether to change jobs. After all, the cost of job-hopping is higher now (professional ability, adaptability, etc.)

According to 7 years of work experience and performance of more than 60 million US dollars, you can seek management positions: operations supervisor, basic salary of more than 12K

atututu

Agree from: Hao Hailan

Generally, for the sake of stability and maternity leave arrangements, they will simply ask about your marital status. Just give a normal answer.

If a company asks about your relationship status in detail and shows that it cares, you can usually avoid it. Even if you join the company, there will still be a lot of troubles. In addition to salary and company development quality, whether the company's values ​​are ok is also very important when looking for a job.

As for salary, in the current environment, we can focus on the base salary, as the commission rate fluctuates too much. I am also curious about the average salary level.

Anonymous user • Shenzhen • 2024-08-27 10:49

Yeah, I updated my resume last night and now I have some understanding of it. If you are also interested, you can chat with me privately, haha.

Haohailan • Shenzhen • 2024-10-21 10:53

[As for salary, in the current environment, we can focus on discussing basic salary, as commissions fluctuate too much] I feel deeply

Anonymous user

If I were you, I would ask for a base salary of at least 20k when looking for a job. And depending on the job role, it is normal to ask for 30k. If you are planning to change jobs, you should think about which market you are going to work in in advance, and then look for the corresponding company. Marital status, I am a man 2 years younger than you, I was not asked about this during the interview, but I was asked if I planned to stay in Shenzhen in the future. In short, I still want to know your stability after joining the company.

Anonymous user • Shenzhen • 2024-08-27 15:40

After reading everyone's replies, I understand. Because I am from Guangdong, my hometown is only 40 minutes away from Shenzhen by high-speed rail, and there are factories everywhere. So there are no good jobs when I go back home, and I will develop in Shenzhen in the future.

Anonymous user • Shenzhen • 2024-08-27 15:40

grateful

Haohailan • Shenzhen • 2024-10-21 10:55

I feel that 20-30k is not management, and it is basically unattainable. In today's society, it is good to have an operation position with 15-18k.

Anonymous user

If you have this kind of results, you should polish your resume. If you are applying for a manager position or above, a base salary of 10,000 yuan is definitely no problem, and 2 or 3 depends on the specific interview situation.

In terms of age, HR will look at the ID card, so if it is an ordinary operations position, you should not apply.

The company will most likely ask about your marital status. How much of an impact it has really depends on the company's attitude. I just asked about it casually during the interview, and the result didn't affect whether I hired the person or not.

iGroupDeals.com

Most companies will ask about your marital status, after all, you are not young anymore (for e-commerce companies)
However, your experience is indeed a good stepping stone. If you are looking for another one, I suggest you don’t look for a new one. Based on your current experience, if you have a foundation in all aspects of the supply chain, I suggest you consider going it alone. After all, building your own store is the ultimate destination for Amazon people.

Haohailan • Shenzhen • 2024-10-21 10:55

I feel like the more I do it, the harder it becomes to be an individual.

Anonymous user

Salary: I think if you ask for a base salary of 10K, it should be fine;
Marriage and love: I think it is very likely that this question will be asked. As a man, my company will ask me this question.
Summary: It depends on the company. Some companies pay more, some pay less, some care about plans to have children, some don’t mind so much. As long as you don’t bring children with you, I don’t think it’s a big problem.

Anonymous user

Agree from: Miss Bread 2024, Hao Hailan

You will definitely be asked this question. Companies recruit based more on data and performance. Based on what you said, the starting salary is 15k, with a minimum of 13k, which is basically fine. And you are not at a disadvantage at your age, so it is totally fine, don't worry.

Anonymous user

Agree from: Miss Bread 2024

Although many companies pay more attention to women's marriage and childbearing issues, but given your strong ability, it should not be a big problem and you can get a very good salary.

Anonymous user • Shenzhen • 2024-08-27 10:39

Because in Shenzhen, there are a lot of people with strong operational capabilities, so I’m a little worried haha

Anonymous user • Shenzhen • 2024-08-27 10:49

Yes, thanks. I'll update my resume and see the outside world.